The following discussion is an archived discussion of a. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a. No further edits should be made to this section. The result of the move request was: not moved. Harvestmen is the common name for any of the eight-legged invertebrate animals comprising the order Opiliones (formerly Phalangida) in the arthropod class Arachnida, characterized by a body in which the two main sections, the cephalothorax and abdomen, are broadly joined so that they appear as if one oval structure. Research on harvestman phylogeny (that is, the phylogenetic tree) is in a state of flux. While some families are clearly monophyletic, that is share a common ancestor, others are not, and the relationships between families are often not well understood. () 08:46, 6 August 2012 (UTC) • → – Harvestmen is the much more common name, and should probably use the common name like other arachnid orders such as,,, and. () 13:04, 26 July 2012 (UTC) • Support. This is a huge group of well-known creatures, so a common name is appropriate. () 13:41, 26 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding comment added by ( • ) • Oppose There is no 'probably' about it. The technically definitive name of any taxon or associated group of taxons should always be preferred as the title for any article dealing with that topic. This always permits as many people as choose to do so, people with preferred or eccentric common names in as many languages, regions, time periods, fashions, majorities, minorities, academic schools, nationalities, religious denominations or ethnic persuasions as there might be, to redirect from their own favourite name(s), using as many formal redirections, disambiguations or tributary articles as desired, to refer to the substantive article as they please for as long as they please without edit wars, justifications, or mutual recriminations. Read the article if you are in doubt about my point. Relative popularity as perceived by anyone concerned has nothing to do with it. Redirection is neither a significant burden to the system, nor to the user who neither knows, understands, nor cares about the 'scientific' name, and has no reason to care. You think that 'Diptera' or 'Culicidae' are confusing? Wait till you have tried to explain 'bug', 'fly', etc to a layman! And as for why a tiny, troglobitic species should be called a harvestman(!) for example. ![]() IMO we should instead be establishing a project to rename (move etc) every article such as 'fly' or 'mosquito' to the taxon name, converting the popular names to redirs, if necessary with suitable recognition or explanation in the primary article. We could add disambigs and redirs by the ream for all anyone might care, and the more the better, as long as they are accurate and appropriate.,,, and would be excellent places to start and I happily volunteer to do it if nominated. And what is so special about the Arachnida anyway? The current situation is an unencyclopedic, inefficient, illogical, unsystematic, pointless disgrace and overdue for correction. Should I elaborate? The fact that it is physically possible to support an inverted mess by redirecting taxon entries to temporarily partly matching topics is no justification, either logically or aesthetically. If we call Opiliones daddy-long-legs, I insist that we include Tipulids and Pholcids in the same article, and if we use the name harvestmen, then we must logically split the topic to exclude those taxa that are not called harvestmen (ie most of them).
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